12 Responses to "Negative for both H. pylori and Candida!"
October 28, 2010 at 8:41 am
Hi Juanita,
Thank you so much for your blog.
I wonder what did you take for H.pylori and for how long?
Thanks again.
October 28, 2010 at 8:27 pm
Jean,
All the supplements I took for H. pylori are listed in my blog. The main supplements were HPLR by Apex Energetics (2 capsules taken 2 to 3 times per day in between meals), Gastro ULC also by Apex Energetics (2 tabs twice a day away from the other supplements because the bentonite clay absorbs other nutrients) and colloidal silver (10ppm 2 tsp twice per day). This was on the recommendation of two different chiropractors. I took the supplements for at least 2 months, maybe three and the silver for just 14-16 days. If you wanted to just try silver alone, one chiropractor swears by just that. There are all sorts of places on the internet that praise the antibacterial, antiviral, and antiparisitic effects of colloidal silver and it’s cheaper than the other supplements. I also had lots and lots of people praying for me 
Hope you have healing.
Juanita
November 1, 2010 at 11:54 am
Hi Juanita,
Thank you so much for all the informations you gave me about the supplements you took against H.pylori.
I did try The matula tea but It didn’t free me from H.pylori. And before that I tried Amoxicillin, Clarythromicine and Lansoprazole. That helped me for a week but as soon as I finished the medication I got the worst pain ever and still positive with H.pylori.
I will try to start the supplements you took for 2 months and see if I can get rid of this nightmare.
My pain is over my chest ( the left chest) and in my back and I burp a lot.
Thank you again for this blog.
November 1, 2010 at 3:39 pm
Jean,
I’m curious, how were you diagnosed? Anyway, I have a feeling my sister may have H.pylori too (my mom and my mom’s dad had it so it may run in the family) she’s been having the burping thing too and nausea…anyway, I hope whatever regimen you get on helps. I might add, broccoli and cabbage fight h. pylori too. I never liked the idea of cabbage until I was desperate enough to try it. I found it was good sauteed in real butter with dried thyme, salt and pepper. And it’s also good in homemade vegetable soups. Keep me updated.
Juanita
November 1, 2010 at 4:07 pm
Hi again,
It was my doctor who gave me a blood test for H.pylori and it was +. However, the burping is not exclusive symptoms of H.pylori. Alot of parasites can cause nausea and burping.
Today I just sent a stool sample to methametrix labs for the comprehensive stool test and I will see what wrong.
My symptoms got worst if I eat a starchy things like Pizza. Sweet food also agravates my symptoms. I’m following the Atkin diet now.
Thank you.
November 2, 2010 at 3:27 pm
Hi Juanita,
If your familly has H.pylori, I think they should treat it. The medical community is unanimous about the pathogenicity of H.pylori. It migh cause gastritis, ulcers, as well as stomach cancers and heart diseases.
I tried the mastic gum but it did nothing for me. Other people also mentioned in other websites that mastic gum did nothing for them.
From little research I did, H.pylori makes biofilms to protect itself from antimicrobials and the immune system. So I think maybe that why Mastic had no effect on my H.pylori. New research study conduted in Italy suggested the use of NAC as Mycolytic to destroy the biofilms and increase the success rate of the triple therapy.
Also H.pylori doesn’t infect the stomach only. It can infects the small intestines and cause an bacterial overgrowth that manifests itself as bloating.
I just waiting for the methametrix results and right away I will try the supplements you suggested. If that won’t work, I have to go through quadriple therapy or a rescue therapy because I feel that I’m out of options.
November 2, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Jean,
If H. pylori makes biofilms to protect itself against antimicrobials then it’s only a matter of trial and error which antimicrobial would work either natural or pharmaceutical. Mastic may work for some and not others. Same goes for the drugs and other natural supplements. The HPLR formula has several antimicrobials in it which may have been why it was effective, plus I took silver too so I had lots of things going at it at once. Plus I was on a diet that didn’t feed it, etc. etc.
I haven’t heard of this NAC. I just looked it up and I don’t recognize it as something I’ve seen as a supplement at the store. How does one aquire this? And what would it be called?
Juanita
November 2, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Hi,
I think that in my case it is a chronic infection. I have to try to destroy the biofilms first so any effort may work.
NAC is N-acetyl-cysteine. It’s the precursor of glutathion.
There is a published study done in Italy that shows that patients who failed to get rid of H.pylori in the first treatment were given 600 mg of NAC as a pretreatment and then they got the triple therapy. The success rate increased because of the pretreatment with NAC against H.pylori.
Turmeric also distrubs the biofilms of H.pylori.
Aspirin is very good against the biofilms of Candida albican.
the biofilms make the bacteria 1000 more resistant to any antibiotic.
I took silver too but if didn’t help me much. I’m thinkin about getting my own silver maker so I can save some money because I paid 40 dollars for a 1oz silver 10ppm. I took it but I didn’t notice any improvement.
I will dig more to find a very sound remedies against this nasty bacteria.
Did you try the matula tea? I tried it but it did nothing for me. Also I contacted a guy from Belgium who bought 4 packages of the matula tea and his son was still positive with the H.pylori and no improvement. The matula tea seems like a scam.
Keep on the good work.
November 3, 2010 at 10:09 am
Jean,
Yeah this NAC is interesting stuff. After I do more research and maybe try it or recommend my sister try it I should write a post on it. So thanks for the tip. I read a warning that taking NAC could disrupt the gastric mucosal barrier, which is obviously not a good thing, causing nausea, vomiting, etc. And people with stomach ulcers should not take it- of course many with h. pylori also have stomach ulcers, so may not be a good treatment for them…Scary stuff in my opinion. So I’d be interested to find some studies where this did not occur.
I barely tried Matula. Think it made me feel sicker so I stopped, returned the rest and got a full refund. I may have only taken two cups of the tea. Perhaps if I’d tried it longer it may have helped. It was doing something if it made me feel worse…But I’m just too sensitive so I quit it right away. The other thing I didn’t like, was I tried to get the ingredients and I think they weren’t willing to tell me what they were. Which I didn’t like one bit. It’s a “secret” formula. Yet there are thousands of other nutritional supplements on the market that list their ingredients and people still buy them. It’s not like people go off and concoct their own. (At least not most people).
Juanita
November 3, 2010 at 11:23 am
Here is the link of the study done in Italy:
http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00985608
There was no single side effect from taking NAC. NAC has also antioxydant effect.
The groupe who received 600 mg of NAC before the rescue therapy had a higher success rate of the eradication of H.pylori than the groupe who didn’t receive NAC.
citizen1ita
May 19, 2010 at 8:50 am
hey there… ive also just started on bee’s candida programme. just going through my first dieoff now actually!
im curious as to what diet changes have you made since having no candida? have you been able to increase your carb intake?
and how is your situation with anxiety/phobia now?
thanks
May 20, 2010 at 2:57 pm
I started eating more carbs, even the cautioned-against wheat. When I eat whole wheat bread, and especially sprouted, it doesn’t seem to bother me as long as it’s in moderation. When I start eating wheat all the time, I do notice it beginning to effect my blood sugar and hormones. Recently I was diagnosed as being insulin resistant and my cortisol levels are too high in the later part of the day/night. The diet for insulin resistance is basically the same as for candida. No grains or decreased grains, less starchy veggies and mostly protein, fat, and veggies. Have I been diligent with this diet? Not so much. The problem is, I have to eat every 2 hours, and this goes on all through the night too. So it becomes very difficult to constantly be eating meat that often. So I’m still eating wheat, though only whole wheat and mostly sprouted. Pretty soon I’m getting a bread machine so I can start making gluten free breads because I was healthier on a gluten free diet several years ago. Also, I still rarely EVER eat fruit. And I stay away from dessert. It’s no good for me! The sugar just doesn’t work well for me. But hard cheeses don’t seem to bother me, that I’m aware of. But everyone’s different. After all of this I’m convinced whole grains are the way to go (whole grains minus the yeast used for bread) but even then, it has to be in moderation if you have insulin or blood sugar problems. The question is, were my problems with insulin and blood sugar caused by the chronic yeast and the h.pylori infection. I think it’s very possible. I have adrenal fatigue from all the stress my body went through when I was sick, so yeah, it’s all a result I’m sure. Going to an endocrinologist to have my elevated cortisol looked into again, and if they can’t help me I’m going back to my acupuncturist/chinese medicine doctor, and maybe have some energetic work done. I’ve just got to get my sleep back.
The phobia is still there. The EMDR I was getting when I was seeing my therapist helped at first, but we stopped doing it consistently, and I’ve recently stopped seeing her due to finances and just being too busy. So the phobia is still there and I still need to get rid of it. Perhaps once I’ve released this strong fear, my body can really heal.
But as an encouraging note, the worst effects from the candida and h.pylori infections are pretty much gone, not at all like they were. (the nausea every day for over a year) So I’m immensely thankful and believe I’ve pretty much conquered that. For one, I continue to take oregano oil from time to time (as well as another supplement I took for h. pylori called Gastro ULC by Apex Energetics) and it does not make me sick so I know the candida must not be back because if it were I’d have die off from that oregano.
Wish you well and health.